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Bomber Harris Lieberman

Posted by cathedralofshit on July 27, 2010

Jessie Harris, of New York also-rans Harris Lieberman, is, we are told, very proud of her Great Grandfather Sir Arthur Travers Harris, aka ‘Bomber Harris’, Air Chief Marshall during the Second World War.
A bit of background; it was Harris who decided that ‘precision’ bombing wasn’t working and that the allied air forces should shift to ‘area’ bombing – that meant not just bombing military and industrial sites but bombing everything. Once, when stopped for speeding, a policeman warned him that he might kill someone to which Harris replied: ‘Young man, I kill thousands of people every night.’ In 1945 Harris ordered the phosphorus bombing of Dresden where tens of thousands were burnt alive in the resulting firestorm (mainly women, children and old men fleeing the invading Red Army, some 80 miles away). He was also responsible for the destruction of Cologne, Darmstadt, Dresden, Hamburg, Kassel, Pforzheim etc etc and for as many as 400,000 civilian deaths (not forgetting 55,573 of his own hapless flight crews).

Many people consider Sir Arthur Harris to be a war criminal.

Have a good day!

7 Responses to “Bomber Harris Lieberman”

  1. CAP said

    The problem with ‘precision’ bombing – or bombing ‘precise’ targets – was that they kept missing anyway. Which is one of the reasons the yanks were keen to fly bombing missions during daylight – at least they gave themselves a better chance of identifying the target. That also meant the Germans had less trouble seeing them coming and preparing. Of course the yanks also needed to fly by day because their navigation was so fucking hopeless most of them got lost at night. Whereas the RAF could at least find their way to Germany and back by night, if not exactly identify anything of military value when they got there. Which is not to say they didn’t drop any bombs, if they couldn’t see their intended target, or imagine they could, but only that the results were in the ‘area’ or neighbourhood, at best. So the change of names did not do much to really alter targets. It was merely a more honest assessment of their abilities.

    But German bombing of British cities was hardly more discriminating and yes they used incendiaries on Coventry and Birmingham and elsewhere. These were not as catastrophic as the results on Hamburg or Dresden and elsewhere in Germany but not for lack of trying.

  2. matthew arnatt said

    cos, your comments “Bomber Harris Lieberman” are offensive, they are the thoughts of a pc journalist with historical pretensions. What could you be expected to know about this?

  3. Mark said

    oh yeah, poor Nazis. Guess your grandpa wasn’t thrown to the gas chamber wasn’t he?

  4. RUM BABA said

    Also yeah this post was pretty weird

  5. bellsy said

    Mark wins the prize for stupidest proxy-victimhood comment!

    There’s a significant difference between the German people and the NSDAP as any fule know- not least because the people sent to the gas chambers were usually German.

    I mean, CoS hasn’t exactly weighed up the controversy but has taken a position on it, which they are entitled to do. Many people DO regard precision bombing as a war crime, others as a crime of necessity, and no doubt the answer probably lies somewhere in between. However I don’t think Bomber Harris could be described as a hero. It’s a complicated issue not best served by people like Mark making slightly offensive and hysterical knee jerk comments like that. And you never know, CoS could have lost family in the Holocaust, and yet perceives that two wrongs don’t make a right. You’ve slightly lost the moral case if your argument is essentially “the Nazis showed now humanity- WE SHOULD WIPE OUT ALL GERMANS AS PUNISHMENT”.

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